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#1 2015-05-27 18:25:59

jere
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Play Creature Expression?

I've tried recording some games recently with the hope of turning the recordings into Let's Plays. I end up with content that I really don't like. The pick up games can end out of the blue and I don't get a good feel for my opponent. Also, it doesn't seem like my meanderings would be that interesting. A bit hard to talk about the game and think deeply about it at the same time.

Then I had an idea that might be more interesting to ya'll. Maybe?

I pre-arrange games with people on the forums. Then we get together and I record 30+ minutes of game time against that person. The games don't end early and we both know up front who we are playing. It's an opportunity to see someone analyzing your strategy and maybe an opportunity to peek at mine. When we get done, there's a nice video artifact. I could do this with multiple opponents.

I'm just feeling this out here. Does it sound interesting to anyone? I even have ideas about prizes and such, but I'll have to think more about that.


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#2 2015-05-27 19:12:49

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

I have an audio setup at my place, but I don't yet have any screen recording software. What software do you use? I could probably dedicate some time to this and give you the video file to upload my side of the game.

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#3 2015-05-27 19:19:43

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

I'd be up for this; not sure if the intent is to have video/commentary from both sides (I haven't done so before but I can't imagine screen capture is that difficult smile ) but would certainly be willing to play.


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#4 2015-05-27 19:23:49

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

Yea it was meant as a one sided thing, but if someone wants to record the other side then we can have both videos?


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#5 2015-05-27 19:38:04

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

I'd be down to do this too. I'd be willing to record audio commentary and my side of the game as well.
Open Broadcaster is great for recording gameplay. It's meant for streaming, but you can also set it up to just record to a file. It's free.

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#6 2015-05-27 22:40:54

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Awesome.

Hah, if both players record their game with sparse commentary, speaking less than half the time, conceivably you could show their two boards side by side and splice together the audio tracks. That would be fantastic but surely also a heap of work. Maybe try that later. (Actually, looking at the two boards at once is quite confusing. The colours are opposite, rotated, an in different places, even the score graphs don't match up, so they actually look very different. If you used the recordedGames file I guess you could mod the client to swap the colours or even rotate the board, and then playback the recorded game to record a new video, so that they're easy to compare.)

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#7 2015-05-27 23:36:13

jere
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Re: Play Creature Expression?

Well, I've learned enough about Premiere that I could do the split screen pretty handily. Either 50% for each or the second board in a small preview on the upper right or something. It might be interesting to see how that turns out. Another way to do it is to alternate video/audio after each round.

My goal is still just to do a boring one sided video, but as experiments the above sounds really neat.

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THINKING ABOUT IT SOME MORE

Actually, we might be able to get on skype and have a conversation recorded. Wouldn't that be neat? It'd be like hole-cam poker. We wouldn't be able to talk so much about strategy, but it might add an interesting bluffing aspect. Hell, it'd practically be like a whole new game here. I'd be AWFUL at it, but the idea sound irresistible.

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#8 2015-05-27 23:47:23

Defiant00
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Skype would be awesome, although it would limit the strategy discussion. Might be more entertaining for the viewers though smile


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#9 2015-05-28 00:16:01

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I'd love to see each possibility tried out. Next add a commentator tongue
Don't have a microphone except on my very low spec netbook. Might look into that, but others were already reporting low frame rates on old PCs...

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#10 2015-05-28 00:27:52

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

You guys are giving me ideas now... so I've already got it in my head that I want to do a local head-to-head party like Jason did at PAX. Well, it shouldn't be to hard to capture off of both machines, grab the player's audio, mix in the audio from a Skype commentator, and stream the result. So two people are playing locally, but then you've got you jere giving a play-by-play and talking strategy and such.

It sounds like a lot of effort, but I'd love to give it a shot sometime if there's interest.

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#11 2015-05-28 13:44:03

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Where's local? I'm in Houston if anyone wants to play around here. My home internet connection isn't fast enough for streaming, but I could record audio/video then upload after.

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#12 2015-05-28 14:43:30

Nate
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Hey all!

I don't have time to edit/upload any videos but I'd be glad to play a few games over skype or whatever else...Anyone can feel free to set up games with me, just shoot me an email.

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#13 2015-05-28 15:21:25

jasonrohrer
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Re: Play Creature Expression?

Yes, when that $6666 game is finally played, it should certainly be live streamed.

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#14 2015-05-28 16:07:20

Cobblestone
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Re: Play Creature Expression?

LiteS wrote:

Where's local?

I'm in SoCal, so just a tad far from Houston!

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#15 2015-05-28 16:23:41

LiteS
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Re: Play Creature Expression?

An easy way to rectify the "I'm Red and you're Green" thing would be to have both players enable colorblind mode on their client, and hue shift the colors to say, red/blue for one player and blue/red for the other. That way it's a little easier to understand what's happening from the third party perspective.

Edit:
If we were to mix the audio into one video, splitting the audio so one person's sound was on the right track, and the other on the left track would allow viewers to adjust the L/R balance on their computers to hear just one person. [I'm not sure if streaming sites combine stereo audio into mono.]

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#16 2015-05-28 23:35:31

jasonrohrer
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Re: Play Creature Expression?

Yes, colorblind mode is a clever way to handle this problem.  Great thinking, LiteS!

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#17 2015-05-29 04:38:35

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Re: Play Creature Expression?

jasonrohrer wrote:

Yes, when that $6666 game is finally played, it should certainly be live streamed.

That game should probably be played face-to-face, live in front of a studio audience.

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