[UPDATED] Boxing Day TOURNAMENT

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-22 22:01:04

The first Cordial Minuet Tournament will be held on December 26, 2014.

Here's how it will work:

For a two hour period, stats will be recorded for all 50-cent stake games played. Players will be ranked based on their net profit from 50-cent games played during that period. Prizes will be awarded to the top-ranking players.

The tournament will take place from 6 to 8 pm UTC on December 26. That's 10a to Noon US PST, or 1p to 3p US EST. Seems like a reasonable time for most of the target timezones (with apologies to the other side of the world).

Prizes will be awarded as follows:

First place: $200
Second place: $100
Third place: $50
Fourth - Tenth pace: $10 each

Prizes will be paid into your Cordial Minuet balance within 24 hours after the end of the tournament (hopefully within a few minutes).

The leaderboard for the tournament can be viewed here:

http://cordialminuet.com/gameServer/ser … e=sea_goat

Before the tournament starts, a countdown time is displayed there.

A few notes and details:

Only games played for 50-cent stakes count toward the tournament. Games at other stakes, or games played before or after, do not count. Everyone effectively starts at 0 in terms of tournament stats when the tournament starts, and they go positive or negative from there depending on how they do on their 50-cent games during the tournament.

You tournament stat will go down by 50 cents when you join a game, and will go up again based on how much you leave with. Games that are left after the tournament ends will not make your tournament stat go up.

To discourage table hopping in search of an accomplice during the tournament, a fixed table rake of 5 chips per player will be imposed on all 50-cent games played during the tournament. This means that players start a new table with 95 chips instead of 100. The other 10 chips go to the house, unless one player leaves before either player recoups back to 100. In that case, the remaining player gets their 5 chips back, while the player who left early does not get their 5 chips back. Otherwise, normal raking (max one chip per round) still applies.

During the tournament, the game list will always include a 50-cent game, whether or not another player is currently waiting for an opponent at that level. Thus, after clicking the button to join a 50 cent game, you may still have to wait for an opponent.

More information is coming soon.

.. · 2014-12-23 06:54:42

Wow, looking forward to it; sooner than I expected. The timezone is narrowly OK for me, but too bad for the Australians.

Generous prizes. I assume that having no entrance fee and funding tournaments mostly out of pocket is going to be a short-lived arrangement? But it would be nice to continue to have low-level self-funded tournaments like that with small prizes. And the game is still going to be in private playtesting on boxing day?

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-23 07:00:04

Yeah, this is just an experiment. How many games will be played that day? There's an extra rake that will be in effect (at least 10 chips from every tournament table, which is 5 cents). Still... 4000 games would be needed at that rate to cover the $200 prize. Well, that's only 20 games per person if everyone plays. 6 minutes per game. Possible, but unlikely.

There are other options for funding prizes... for example, there could be a larger fixed table rake, and the prize pool could grow as that rake accumulates. There could be a weekly prize like this, for example (top player of the week at some stake level).

.. · 2014-12-23 08:21:20

I like the idea of a weekly contest. But I think that if you're going to take an extra tribute from participating games, then they should be indicated somehow.

BTW, what happened to writing "tribute" instead of "rake"?

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-23 20:57:35

Caught me!

Nate · 2014-12-23 23:16:32

Since there's not that many players right now, I think this tourney would be pretty easy to scam right now. Even with the 5 chip thing. More players would make it harder to scam, given the 5 chip rule.

That said, I promise I won't scam the tournament... As long as everyone else promises not to scam the tournament, lol.

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-24 07:23:55

Well, I'm hoping that a hundred or so players will be drawn back for the tournament, and that the flurry of activity will make passing money between two accounts impractical.

There is a "paper trail" of every fraction of a cent that moves on the server, so if there's a question of ill-deserved tournament wins, I can investigate.

iisjreg · 2014-12-24 11:07:13

Regarding your last point, it would be good to write up a "eula" as soon as possible, especially if there is a possibility that you might withhold finances from people. I don't know about the US but the UK gets very funny about consumer rights, at times.

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-24 19:20:43

What do you mean about withholding finances? You mean in the case of suspicious activity where I need to investigate?

Well, I guess I should be clear: if you find a way to "game the system" and win, then you win, and that's my problem. I would be using the paper trail to figure out how you did it and prevent it from happening next time (through a different tribute structure, etc.). I wouldn't be gathering evidence to justify me withholding your prize!

zed · 2014-12-25 00:42:45

Would it be Acceptable to play the tournament as a centaur, i.e. using
external tools to get a machine to do some game-theoretic calculations?

It could give me the necessary shove to try to hack something up, time
permitting.

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-25 04:17:22

Oh, sure, that's fine. Playing with a full bot is also fine.

iisjreg · 2014-12-25 20:40:57

Ok, fair enough :-) still would be good to have some kind of agreement, even if it's like wtfpl.

sciro · 2014-12-25 21:31:32

This sounds awesome, looking forward to it!

zed · 2014-12-26 18:16:56

zed:
> It could give me the necessary shove to try to hack something up, time
> permitting.

It didn't.

jere · 2014-12-26 18:24:06

Hmm.... waiting longer than I thought for another game.

.. · 2014-12-26 18:29:02

Where on earth is everyone?! Could this really be that bad a time for people to play?

jere · 2014-12-26 18:36:48

I did get in btw. Took a few minutes. There is a parity issue where if an odd number of people are there, you're not getting a game until someone leaves or joins even if that number of people is huge.

jasonrohrer · 2014-12-26 18:52:12

There are currently 14 people playing in the tournament, it seems.

So much for attracting 100+ of players back.

AnoHito · 2014-12-26 19:58:10

Looks like around 20 people have played so far, and a lot of money has been changing hands too. I know it's not 100 people, but you have to start somewhere. I think this is a really good turnout all things considered.

So funny story, in the first round of the first game I played, I went all in and won. For about the first half hour of the tournament I was solidly in first, and for about the first hour, I still felt like I had a comfortable chance at making top 3. Unfortunately at about the hour mark I realized I was going to have to win at least one more game to guarantee a top 3 finish, and it went downhill from there. Still, I am going to finish in the top 10, meaning I won $10.00 for losing $0.17. Not a bad result if you ask me.

Edit: Someone edged me out by half a cent for spot #10. ;P

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QuazAndWally · 2014-12-26 20:01:25

I don't see myself on the leaderboard, but I know I earned money, probably around $1. Are these aliases and not usernames? Or was I supposed to register for the tournament?

jere · 2014-12-26 20:01:48

These are aliases. You would have been sent one in your email.

QuazAndWally · 2014-12-26 20:02:42

Oh I see, thank you!

Pox · 2014-12-26 20:04:20

Maybe you should have mentioned the prize money in the last email round or something. People who aren't playing actively aren't likely to be checking the forums either, no?

By the way: Hello and thanks for that last email round - it found its way to me yesterday and I had a lot of fun learning to play during the tournament just now. Barely missed out on top 3 but I'm not complaining.

ggwp to creature expression - I wonder whether the high game count is due to leaving tables strategically or just straight-up murdering the competition?

jere · 2014-12-26 20:05:43

Thanks! Uh. I left a few slow tables because they weren't going anywhere. The key to winning this was convincing LOTS of people to all-in against their better judgement. And since it's time limited, there is a lot of pressure to all-in.

In fact, I feel victim to this on my first game in the tournament and I was sure I was doomed at that point...

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jasonrohrer · 2014-12-26 20:06:26

And.... there's the bell!

Congrats to Creature Expression who won first place and a $200 prize.

The grand total tribute (the 5 coin table tribute plus the tribute coins taken from pots) in this tournament was $3.83, so it certainly didn't pay for itself.

I'll be sending out the prizes in a few minutes.

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